Toyota Plans Revolutionary Solid State Battery for 2021

27 ian. 2021
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  • Fake news

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  • Mmmmmyyyyeeeaaahhhh, but it ain't ever gonna happen. lol-like-a-muuuuug!! :)

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  • i think these videos are part of the scam that was quantumScape... the recent announcement just confirmed my suspicions about all the scams going on in the world... these guys made bernieMadoff smile

    Courtney BowenCourtney BowenAcum 14 ore
  • Who announced this? Are they taking a page from the Apple playbook? There is something great just around the corner, so don't buy anything from the competition, because it is obsolete already. (in another 10 years maybe!!!)

    bigpicture3bigpicture3Acum 18 ore
  • Just as SSD (solid state hard drives) are making moving arm hard drives a thing of the past.

    robert mccullyrobert mccullyAcum 18 ore
  • And i plan to gain 30 kilos of muscles next month.

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  • Have you see specs for Tesla ? Basically same or better

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  • Gene Berdichevsky says NO SSBs

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  • Still dependant on lithium? Sorry, no go, regardless of how impressive this is.

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  • What about graphene in the future when it becomes more cheaper and less time to manufature would be possible right?

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  • If I had a dollar for every revolutionary battery technology I've learned about I'd probably be able to afford to develop a revolutionary battery technology.

    Andrew AscheAndrew AscheAcum 2 Zile
  • I am excited for electric vehicles !

    Matt HalpainMatt HalpainAcum 2 Zile
  • Interesting choice of words....."all with MINIMAL safety concerns". They lack confidence, didn't say " NO safety concerns". Obviously lawyered up before the press conference? It is so ridiculous that people are so gullible to whatever Toyota (or Tesla) say about these vehicles. Fact is EV's have plenty of safety concerns, even the risk one will burn down your house! Keep your gas engine car or the long run it will be your best decision.

    Ray RussellRay RussellAcum 2 Zile
  • Still a simple question unsolved. Where is the charging power from? coal power plants? nuclear power plants? From my point of view, it just move CO2 from petro-engines to power plants. And we have to build more new power plants to fulfill the future electric cars growth.

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  • I've nursed my ice car through almost 20 years of life. I suppose nursing it through another 10 years service is an acceptable wait for a functioning AFFORDABLE solid state EV CAR. That's the part of electrification they really need to work on, making it affordable to EVERYONE, not just the well to do. Here in Canada, a lousy, stinking, chinese built, homely Chevy Bolt is almost $45,000. Forty five thousand dollars.... for that little piece of crap. I'd love an EV but financially, it just isn't possible now, so fine, I'll give it 10 more years and wait for solid state to change the game.

    Patrick ChubeyPatrick ChubeyAcum 2 Zile
  • My home electricity supply is limited to 60A, at 230V, which means that it can't supply enough power to recharge any 40kWh battery faster than 2 1/2 hours. Only superchargers could manage these fast recharge times quoted in the video

    Chris BarronChris BarronAcum 3 Zile
  • whats wrong with hydrogen Hyundai Nexo'

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  • Batteries are a poor store of energy at this scale.

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  • 1000 cicles! So if I use my car daily I'd need to change the batt in 3 years. Great improvement.

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  • who wants to bet that even with this battery people will still be too lazy to charge their phones when it hits 10% charge left

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    • I was thinking the exact same thing.

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  • Sometimes, it's not a question of whether legacy automakers have a technology but more of a question on whether they will use the next big 'thing.' They have been ultra-invested in the petroleum industry/ICE forever. Can they really change NOW? Do they want to change? I think "...the spirit is willing BUT the flesh is WEAK." And, what is their motivation for producing a solid-state battery/capacitor? To preserve the environment or stay in business? I think to stay in business. This saddens me because that motivation has a high-probability of making the same mistakes of the ICE age over again...such as being committed to driving down costs and truly thinking of the consumer's needs vs corporate desires. Some of these companies are touting a new power source but announce zero about the infrastructure for recharging the battery. I guess they figure the government will just take that on and 'make it happen'...somehow. Overall, it sounds like half a plan to me.

    xrayaiz74xrayaiz74Acum 4 Zile
  • It's a plan... like Nikola's plan...

    yootoober2009yootoober2009Acum 4 Zile
  • Hey! One question, please: for my future Rav4 prime 2021 is there any chance to replace the present standard battery with one of this type within the same volume, and no other item more in the next 5-10 years, for double or more capacity? Thanks!

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  • 3:14 do they come with built in sushi as well?

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  • "A phone battery that lasts three days." - My Nokia 5110 calling which I forgot in a drawer in 2007.

    Michael RenperMichael RenperAcum 4 Zile
    • But if that phone a latest smart it only last 30mins. it last longer because its not smart phone you damn brain died

      Edmond EdiloEdmond EdiloAcum 4 ore
    • My Lenovo P2 is calling from the drawer I put it in 2015, too. That phone could last at least four days on standby, ten days on the battery save feature! :)

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  • Class action lawsuit was filed against Quantumscape. Seems like they lied about the success of their solid state battery.

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  • Good deal. Just too late.

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  • Legacy car makers are not going to kill their baby (ICE engine).

    Deborah St ClairDeborah St ClairAcum 6 Zile
  • The recent cold temperature drop in Texas is a big problem for battery run vehicles. A battery could lose 30 percent of its power in very cold temperature to start and run the engine. Not only that, with the lost of electricity, electric vehicles can't be charged. Hybrid vehicles are better because gasoline does not freeze and charges the battery as well.

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    • You act like EV's don't exist in places where it is normally cold.

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  • We will reverse engineer it in no time.

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  • I heard about this 3 years before i went to japan to get my engineering degree. Now 6 years after graduating and came back from japan... still the same thing.

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  • norway future be like, I have to go to work, car is software updating..... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

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  • Increasing popularity of electric cars = Nuclear power plants smiling back at us from being left aside for a while.

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  • I thought Samsung was working on Graphene batteries.

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  • Scam just like Tesla. They're pumping stock like Elon.

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    • I have absolutely no doubt about it. Did you watch this guys video on Intel? Have you heard about Volkswagen dieselgate or Boeing 737 software problem as a result of competition with Airbus? Big companies do scams all the time. Anything to make a penny.

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    • @dacealksne you seriously think a company like toyota does scams like that?

      CH KiranmaiCH KiranmaiAcum 6 Zile
    • 4:25 So you think they got price down 1000 times? So now one car would cost 100k instead of 100mil? (which is still crazy, btw) No, they didn't. Maybe 10 times. Maybe even 100. It would still cost a million then. They'll just make 3 or 4 prototypes (maybe not even that, just CGI presentation). Lefty press will jump all over it and stock goes up. That's it. That's what Musk does all the time with Hyperloops and Starships.

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    • Huh? I don't think so.

      CH KiranmaiCH KiranmaiAcum 6 Zile
  • Looks like a Pick-Two situation to me: Comes to market on time | Performs as promised | Priced as promised - you can only have two!

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  • This got me excited about the future

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    • @Recklvss Rock It is indeed. I actually think that the SSB will become commercial in about 5 years because now even jaguar is going full electric 5 years from now.

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    • Is it not a great thing that technology kept advancing? Atleast some people are fighting for the better future.

      Recklvss RockRecklvss RockAcum 6 Zile
    • Someone said that 10 years ago

      ArgentumArgentumAcum 6 Zile
  • I expect Toyota to deliver their cars with this e battery , skipping the Li ion route and become the world leader. Watch . Do not go by what Mr.Toyoda says about e cars. They are working like hell to deliver safe ,quick charging cars.

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  • Good the research is making some progress but still early stages, solid state battery has its benefits that we go for: Carry capacity, easier to manufacture, no rare elements aside from lithium itself (carbon and such are common elements), potential for lower cost, that high price in the video is due to the lack of mass production and only a small team making the battery "by hand" but otherwise should become affordable. The bad, yes those annoying dendrites need to be dealt with for maximizing battery safety and avoiding the swollen battery "disease". Would like a job in this area as I don't have a job yet after college.

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  • 20-30yrs away, if ever from mainstream take up

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  • SS batteries coated in graphene? Is that being explored?

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  • lol @8:37 You could win 1mil cash OR A HOUSE IN FLORIDA... Like wow what a gamble... Especially as a Canadian... Financial independence? Or move to a croc-infested god-forsaken meth swamp inhabited by the world's most famously stupid men. Who's feelin lucky??

    Matt BridgesMatt BridgesAcum 8 Zile
  • Solid state is not more expensive. It uses less material. No anode needed. No heating system, and some other benefits. I keeps its charger and charges better in winter.

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  • Toyota continues to pursue hydrogen technology for good reason. It will eventually win because of superior energy density and weight. The production cost and delivery issues will soon be resolved. The possibility of electric aircraft will need hydrogen to succeed.

    Donald EspeutDonald EspeutAcum 9 Zile
  • Takes a lot of fossil fuel and materials to make. Oil will still be king for our lifetimes. Solar is a joke away from the equator.

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  • Regarding your battery swapping article, I fully agree with it, and with a very good reason. I am an independent inventor with an expired US Patent 8256553 an abandoned site and a provisional one that just came out protecting an Instant-swapping concept that would kill range anxiety, and encourage EV widespread adoption if materialized. Please send your thoughts.

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  • It's a real torture to listen to Australian. Can you make an English version of this video? You can hire human narrators as cheap as a few $ per hour (just google "narrator voice over") or use synthetic voice. If you hate American accent, hire someone who speaks British English or its more neutral European variant.

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  • Promising technology long overdue! Let us hope that change is around the corner.

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  • Toyota said these will be available in 2021. We will see. Tesla has their leading 4680 available in 2021 too. This will be a great race to market.

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  • Tesla is gonna crush this thing...

    McFriskoMcFriskoAcum 10 Zile
  • Tired of ICE Car-companies talking, smoke and mirrors and never deliver.

    Nerd DrenNerd DrenAcum 10 Zile
  • Toyota, like GM, Ford, and so many others, is badly addicted to a service-centric business model that surrounds the internal combustion engine. They have proven time and again that they have little interest in adopting electric vehicles, and Toyota in particular, focused years of effort around the idiotic hydrogen fuel cell, which is going absolutely nowhere. When Toyota introduced the Prius, they were seen as leaders. Now they just look stupid, and this video is more of their off-in-the-future smoke & mirrors shit. I will happily watch Tesla eat their lunch.

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  • I won't hold my breath. Toyota were miles ahead of the game with the Prius, but now we could see them disappear.

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  • Let's get on it! I want my next Camry Hybrid 25 or 26 to have a Solid State Battery! This can't just be mini vans and crap. I want my Monkey Man! I mean my future Toyota Camry with a sweet Solid State built in!

    Kenny StronerKenny StronerAcum 12 Zile
  • I find it comical that Toyota is claiming 500Km of range which supposedly provides "double the range of what would be possible with traditional Lithium Ion batteries 3:12 ". Never mind that Tesla is about to offer a battery of 520 miles, or 837Km of range in their upcoming Tesla Model S Plaid+....

    Red BaronRed BaronAcum 12 Zile
    • @CH Kiranmai We'll wait until they release something. Too much vaporware floating around...

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    • It says double the range for same size.

      CH KiranmaiCH KiranmaiAcum 6 Zile
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  • I'm thinking that Elon had better step up his buying at the dispensary; he's gonna need it to escape his bleak future once the crapstorm of competition starts coming his way.

    John SmithJohn SmithAcum 12 Zile
  • Prototypes are easy. Toyota should have no excuse not to deliver this year.

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  • 2023 or 2024? And then they will just magically appear? Where are the factories under construction? What will Toyota sell between now and then while the competition gets years of head start? Even with magic instant factories, these batteries will be expensive at first. How will Toyota compete? Clearly I am not convinced of this plan.

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  • i hope so ...solid state batteries or super/ultra capacitors plus battery combination....

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  • Recently the president of Toyota outlined two major issues with electric cars. Here they are, vehicle cost and electrical insufficient generating capacity.

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  • What happened to "Fuel cell battery" and the Toyota Mirai"?

    Crazy Candy CrushCrazy Candy CrushAcum 13 Zile
    • It'll eventually get phased out

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  • Wow. So many guys bought Tesla's shares already. They are now scared to death thinking the shares stumbling.

    Idius ConfusIdius ConfusAcum 13 Zile
  • 500 kms at Japanese cycle so 300 kms at 80-90 Km/hr so maybe 300 Kms range in reality and we're there already with current tech, the only real issue today is poor batter temperature control in cold weather or lack of entirely when it comes to Nissan so the result of that is much slower DC charge times. But a 100 Kwh EV would be nicc with 300 Kw charging Winter/Summer. It's amazing that Toyota are still churning out Hybrids with NiMh batteries.

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  • It's slightly disingenuous to mention Norway's EV sales without mentioning the 30% tax on ICE cars.....

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  • $300 million in research and development . ? China will steal that in a heart beat . Then make it for pennies with slave labor .

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  • "Is more fire resistant..." *is made from lithium metal which spontaneous combusts with a extreme white hot slame when exposed to ANY water or air with even tiny amounts of humidity.

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    • WRONG. Even current more dangerous Lithium Ion do not use raw Lithium Metal. The lithium is also used in tiny fraction of the density less than 5% of a large cell array. Majority of the burnable fuel in a dangerous Lithium Ion is Not lithium.

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  • I know it's impossible, but why don't the various auto companies agree on a standard battery size? Then it could be like the battery powered fork lifts in the auto plants! When the battery in your vehicle is drained, you pull into a charging station and exchange a depleted battery for one that is fully charged! Designed right, it would take no longer than it does to fill your gas tank with fossil fuel! Like the battery powered fork lifts, just unplug the old one and plug in the new one! The depleted battery is charged and ready for the next customer! Not enough profit I guess. Too bad for us.

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  • Hey buddy....they keep talking up ssb and graphite batteries apparently 300% more capacity and and and.... Why are they all talking about it but not delivering 😁 I stay highly sceptical until we see working battery’s to prove it😂

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  • They keep saying a lot of stories? But the truth! They regret what they did to there share from tesla years back. Reality, it would take years and years to make a good set up! For mass production to vehicles. Which Tesla did! Minimum of 10 tears at least, not to mention the amount of money needed which, i doubt toyota has?

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  • So much information in one vid, I was wondering why their share prices have gone up

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  • Storing electricity on an efficient way is only one thing. Producing it to have enough when more and more people shift to this model is another.

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  • One of solid state batteries main problem is the speed of charge, how a solid state battery could solve the fast charging problem for other batteries? Nobody cares about the energy density, what's important is the specific energy or the gravimetric energy density. One of main advantage of solid state batteries are the quasi absence of dentrite formation, that's why they have a long cycle life. Your video is completely wrong, completely false!!!

    Benoit AvrilBenoit AvrilAcum 18 Zile
  • Can't wait for this tech to become mainstream and for electric cars to become more accessible. Sure, it won't happen over night, but, damn, I'm getting tired of these constant oil change services that have to be done on ICE cars. Not to mention timing chains and other major stuff! Ever had to replace a turbo or a transfer case? It's painful!!! Luckily these are things you don't need to worry about on electric cars!

    Felix HinzeFelix HinzeAcum 18 Zile
  • I think the final pieces of the puzzle will be standardizing the batteries so that battery stations can replace gas stations - you pull up and swap batteries - and getting the electricity from somewhere else than where we get it now. Without those two things, supply chains cannot go all electric nor will it make any difference. we'll still be burning dino goo. Just upstream.

    Sean ParkerSean ParkerAcum 18 Zile